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Post Has the EU Been a Failure?
Created by John Eipper on 03/02/13 4:45 AM

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Has the EU Been a Failure? (Eugenio Battaglia, Italy, 03/02/13 4:45 am)

I think that Nigel Jones (1 March) is right. The so-called present Europe is only a financial construction, not the real Europe of Nations that too many people need. (However, one may ask, what is this Europe?)

Maastricht and the Euro have been not well prepared and are a failure; only the bureaucrats of Brussels and the finance people are happy.

JE comments:  Beppe Grillo's Five Star Movement is anti-austerity, but what is its view on the EU in general?

And what, exactly, does Eugenio Battaglia mean by a "real Europe of nations"?  Political union along the lines of a United States of Europe?


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  • Beppe Grillo and the EU (Eugenio Battaglia, Italy 03/03/13 6:45 AM)
    In response to JE's questions of 2 March, I do not closely follow the positions of Italy's political leaders, as I do not hold any of them in high esteem.

    However, I believe that Beppe Grillo and by now the great majority of Italians are convinced that we need a political union along the lines of the United States of Europe, with great ideas and not with bureaucrats who just argue about the length of zucchini and obsess on financial problems.


    A great idea can solve our financial problems, but finance matters will never create a great community; at most it will create some rich (and hated) men and women.


    By the way, if it is true that the world's bank computers are circulating eleven times the amount of the money that can be ever actually be produced, the financial problems will never be solved following the rules of the "banksters" and the politicians who follow their orders. New ideas are needed.


    JE comments: Views on the EU seem to converge on one point: no more status quo. Following the Biblical adage, everyone criticizes Europe for being neither hot nor cold--some seek greater political union, and others want to scuttle the whole endeavor.


    "Because thou art lukewarm--neither cold nor hot--I will spue thee out of my mouth" (Revelations 3:16).


    I can never envision a United States of Europe, as the most nations would rebel against the assumption that it would be run from Berlin. The UK fought two wars against this idea. Small nations would fight to achieve a political voice disproportionate to their populations.


    It's an impasse.  In the meantime, Europe holds its mouth and hasn't spewed yet.


    (I'd also like to revisit Eugenio Battaglia's thoughts on European banking. Isn't the whole point of finance to circulate more money than actually exists?

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