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PostEU and the Family Analogy (Tor Guimaraes, USA, 10/19/17 6:20 pm)
I enjoyed immensely reading Ric Mauricio's last post (18 October). Ric's family analogy was entertaining and constructive, a breath of fresh air from WAIS posts that see the EU as some sort of evil empire by corrupt bureaucrat with no redeeming value. Just like most big nations (let alone conglomeration of historically different nations cobbled together) today, the political leaders are all stinkers one way or another.
I do have one question about the analogy: If Germany and France are the parents, what role did Britain play? or will play if they in the end decide against Brexit?
Since my Zodiac sign is Libra, I am very pleased that Ric balanced the innuendos by asking about the other side "How about those who take God's Money to do Satan's Work?"--thus referring to the fact that some commentators can only see one side.
JE comments: Germany and Frau Merkel have to be the mom, so France is Dad? Perhaps Britain is the distant stepfather, denied visitation but forced to pay child support? I guess these analogies only go so far.
Tor, Libras are celebrating their birthdays this month. Congratulations to you, and many returns!
Fun with Analogies: What if US Functioned Like EU?
(John Heelan, -UK
10/21/17 12:43 PM)
As Tor Guimaraes (19 October) has taken the discussion into the murk of deductive reasoning via analogy, how acceptable would it be for US WAISers if EU principles were applied to "America First"? Anything could happen with Trump.
1. US states suffering unemployment and economic woes (see bottom 27 on Wiki) have to be funded by the top five.
2. For four days every month, the denizens of Capitol Hill have to move to Canada for their parliamentary meeting.
3. The Trump Administration creates rules, policies and procedures to hamper the Senate and Congress exercising their democratic duties.
4. The Washington "gravy train for officials" emulates the EU one in Brussels and Strasbourg.
5. States wishing to secede from the US are castigated with as many legal and other obstacles placed in their way by the Administration as possible.
6. Legal decisions (other than SCOTUS) override local State legislation.
People will say (rightly) that the saving grace for the US is the Constitution. National referendums in Ireland and others on the euro and the EU "constitution" (aka the Lisbon Treaty that altered the voting weight of Member States) and changed the Voting principle to a "qualified majority voting" system were dismissed by the EU Commission, which told recalcitrant Member States to go back and do it again until it got the answer the EU Commission wanted.
The saving grace for the US is its 200-year-old Constitution that underlines its democracy. The 10-year-old EU constitution does not.
JE comments: Several of the above, especially 3 and 4, are already applicable. Right?