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Created by John Eipper on 11/21/15 5:25 AM

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Badoglio and Petain (Eugenio Battaglia, Italy, 11/21/15 5:25 am)

John E (see Randy Black, 19 November) was right about Badoglio picking the winning side and living well in retirement. (However, he was rather despised.)

The discussion with Randy Black is a clear example of the difference between how history is related by the winners and the losers.

I believe, in the case of Germany in Italy, that I have stated the truth.

The Germans were in Italy well before Italy's unconditional surrender; more arrived later, of course.

Italy was a co-belligerent after 13 October 1943, but officially continued to be a defeated enemy under occupation. Frankly it was an extremely humiliating situation.

I never stated that the Allies acted illegally. They were carrying out their war. What a fantastic joke when Randy wrote: "the new government allowed the Allies to land in Salerno."

I never knew that the Allies needed permission!

At this point, I think it is better to stop the debate and present it as a classic example of how history is presented according to (arrogant) Victors and (proud) Losers.

JE comments:  I want to thank Eugenio Battaglia for sending me a copy of Renzo de Felice's massive Mussolini e il fascismo, which arrived at WAIS HQ this week.  I now have a 760-page reading assignment--in Italian!  But fear not:  this is just one volume of De Felice's 6000-page work on Il Duce.  

How could you write 6000 pages on anything?


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