Login/Sign up

World Association of International Studies

Post Is Yemen Turning into Another Vietnam?
Created by John Eipper on 06/15/15 2:52 AM

Previous posts in this discussion:


Is Yemen Turning into Another Vietnam? (Massoud Malek, USA, 06/15/15 2:52 am)

On June 14, Randy Black wrote: "Massoud seems concerned by Saudi pilots accidentally dropping bombs on civilians in Yemen, yet does not mention the thousands of innocents from the many Middle Eastern nations where ISIS, a radical branch of Islam, is attempting to take over and impose their will."

Arab warplanes are dropping bombs on rebel targets in Yemen to an extent that dwarfs the bombing of ISIS in Iraq and Syria. That's because Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain--the three countries flying air strikes--all view Iran, which is backing the rebel effort to take over Yemen, as a greater threat than ISIS.

After Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq, the US eagerly signed up to back a Saudi-led war in Yemen that appears to be guided by dangerously unclear goals. On the evening of the first air strikes, the White House revealed that the United States was aiding the air campaign in Yemen. Soon after the first attacks, a team of American experts were sent to Saudi Arabia to aid in the strikes by providing intelligence from spy satellites and reconnaissance drones. Somehow these experts are telling Saudi pilots to "accidentally" bomb refugee camps, hospitals, schools, airports, and mosques.

The Bab al-Mandab ("Gateway of tears or anguish") is a strait located between Yemen, Djibouti and Eritrea. It connects the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden. The Strait is important geographically, politically, economically and militarily. Over three million barrels of oil pass through the strait every day. Under the false pretexts of seeking to reinstall the fugitive Yemeni president Abdrabbu Mansour Hadi, the Saudi King and his British and American allies began an air aggression on Yemen in order to secure their interests in Bab El-Mandeb strait. Within 24 hours, the Saudi-led coalition bombarded civilians all over Yemen. Aid agencies and the UN have warned of a growing humanitarian crisis in Yemen; the majority of people killed in the conflict are civilians.

A few days after the start of the war, a Saudi jets dropped bombs on a refugee camp in northern Yemen. After seeing the pictures of those Yemeni children, it would be hard not to sympathize with those victims and their families. I invite Randy to visit the Newsweek site at:


In late April, a member of Saudi royal family, Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, once described by Time magazine as the "Arabian Warren Buffett," tweeted: "I'm honored to offer 100 Bentley cars to the 100 Saudi fighter pilots." In response to the Prince's insensitive tweet, a Yemeni tweeted: "100 Bentley cars to 100 pilots who bombed Yemen. Not a single ambulance to the hospitals they devastated."

The North Yemen Civil War began with a coup d'état in 1962, carried out by the republican leader who dethroned the newly crowned Imam Muhammad al-Badr and declared Yemen a republic under his presidency. The Egyptian President, Gamal Abdel Nasser, supported the republicans with as many as 70,000 Egyptian troops and chemical weapons. After suffering up to 20,000 casualties in fighting the same Zaydi tribes that back the Houthis, in 1967, Egypt withdrew from the war to fight against Israel. Egyptians call their intervention in Yemen their Vietnam War.

Last February, the Saudi King Salman appointed his 29-year old son, Mohammad bin Salman. as the defense minister. What began as a military adventure for the world's youngest minister of defense is turning into a major fiasco. It is time for the US to stop helping King Salman and his son in their stupid war. We should be reminded that our stupid invasion of Iraq which was decided by some politicians in Washington, and created the Islamic State that is killing tens of thousands of innocent people, including Christians, Shiites, Kurds, and Yazidis.

Less than two weeks after the start of the war, in response to a direct face-to-face request from King Salman for ground troops and aircraft for the war against Zaydi Shiite Houthi rebels in Yemen, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif took the issue to the Pakistani parliament. After five days of debate, not one speaker supported sending ground troops. While many praised Saudi Arabia as a friend of Pakistan, almost all called for a political solution and diplomacy to end the crisis. Some even blamed Riyadh for starting the war.

This time, no politician in Washington has the right to force to take us to another Vietnam War, called Yemen.







JE comments:  I added quotation marks around the adverb "accidentally."  Is there any proof that the Saudi pilots are being encouraged to hit civilian targets? 

The links above contain disturbing images.  It's not hard to imagine what the Yemenis think about the intervention from their rich and powerful neighbor.  Yemen is too factional and dysfunctional for outsiders to understand, but a few more "accidental" bombings from the Saudis will bring the Yemenis unity and a clarity of purpose.

Rate this post
Informational value 
Reader Ratings (0)
Informational value0%

Visits: 99


Please login/register to reply or comment: Login/Sign up

  • Yemen Conflict (Randy Black, USA 06/16/15 4:16 PM)

    Massoud Malek (15 June) dodges important facts regarding the ongoing dust-up in Yemen.

    Massoud continues to attack the US for providing satellite intelligence support to the Middle East's coalition fighting the Houthi (Shia) invasion of Yemen while ignoring the other nine nations that are also involved in the effort to defeat the invaders of Yemen.

    The Sunni coalition: Egypt, UAR, Bahrain, Jordan, Sudan, Qatar, Kuwait, Morocco and others including Pakistan that support Saudi sovereignty. It's my thought that Iran is the de facto bad guy in this matter.

    While Houthi (Shia) are the actual fighters who've invaded Yemen, they receive open support from Iran.

    Adding to the tragic war, Yemen is also the stronghold of Al-Qaeda. Finally, there is the matter of ISIS that openly declared its intention to take over the world.

    Yet, Massoud would have the world believe that the US, Britain, Pakistan and others are the bad guys in all of this.

    Sidebar: For what it's worth, most of the Saudi senior government is educated in the US or the UK. I've omitted the degrees from Saudi universities of the resumes of those senior Saudi officials who have not studied abroad.

    Deputy Prime Minister and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Naif bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud, BA Political Science, 1981. (no college revealed)

    Minister of the National Guard

    Prince Miteb bin Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud, Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, United Kingdom, 1974; M.A. Military Science, Command and Staff College, Riyadh.

    Minister of Education:

    Dr. Azzam bin Mohammed Al-Dakhil

    PhD in Civil Engineering, University of Dundee, 2002; MA in Architecture, California State University, 1984

    Minister of Foreign Affairs:

    Adel bin Ahmed Al-Jubeir

    BA summa cum laude in political science and economics, University of North Texas, 1982; MA in international relations, Georgetown University, 1984

    Minister of Water and Electricity:

    Abdullah bin Abdulrahman Al-Husein

    MS in computer science, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, Georgia, 1976; BS in electrical engineering and BS in mathematics, Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon, 1973.

    Minister of Finance:

    Dr. Ibrahim bin Abdulaziz Al-Assaf

    PhD in Economics, Colorado State University, Fort Collins, Colorado, USA; MA in Economics, Denver University, Colorado; BA in Economics and Political Science

    Minister of Health:

    Khaled bin Abdulaziz Al-Falih

    BS in mechanical engineering, Texas A&M University (Go Aggies), 1982

    Minister of Commerce and Industry:

    Dr. Tawfiq Al-Rabiah

    PhD in Computer Science, University of Pittsburgh; MS in Computer Science and MS in Information Science

    Minister of Culture and Information:

    Dr. Adel bin Zaid Al-Turaifi

    PhD in international relations, London School of Economics and Political Science, 2012; MA in international conflict, University of Kingston, London, 2008.

    Minister of Social Affairs:

    Dr. Majed bin Abdullah Al-Qasabi

    PhD in ‎engineering management, University of ‎Missouri, 1985; MA in engineering management, University of ‎Missouri, 1983; MA in civil ‎engineering, University of California, Berkeley, ‎‎1982; BA in civil engineering, University of Portland, Oregon, 1981.

    Minister of Petroleum and Mineral Resources:

    Ali bin Ibrahim Al-Naimi

    MSc Geology, Stanford University, USA; BSc, Geology, LeHigh University.

    Minister of Communications and Information Technology:

    Dr. Mohammed bin Ibrahim Al-Suwaiyel

    PhD in Computer Science (Algorithms), University of Southern California, 1979; MSc. in Computer Science (Algorithms), University of Southern California, 1975;



    JE comments:  This list of US degrees seems to bolster Massoud's argument that the Saudis and the Americans are of one voice (and one fist) in the Yemen war.

    Please login/register to reply or comment:

Trending Now

All Forums with Published Content (44645 posts)

- Unassigned

Culture & Language

American Indians Art Awards Bestiary of Insults Books Conspiracy Theories Culture Ethics Film Food Futurology Gender Issues Humor Intellectuals Jews Language Literature Media Coverage Movies Music Newspapers Numismatics Philosophy Plagiarism Prisons Racial Issues Sports Tattoos Western Civilization World Communications


Capitalism Economics International Finance World Bank World Economy


Education Hoover Institution Journal Publications Libraries Universities World Bibliography Series


Biographies Conspiracies Crime Decline of West German Holocaust Historical Figures History Holocausts Individuals Japanese Holocaust Leaders Learning Biographies Learning History Russian Holocaust Turkish Holocaust


Afghanistan Africa Albania Algeria Argentina Asia Australia Austria Bangladesh Belgium Belize Bolivia Brazil Canada Central America Chechnya Chile China Colombia Costa Rica Croatia Cuba Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark East Europe East Timor Ecuador Egypt El Salvador England Estonia Ethiopia Europe European Union Finland France French Guiana Germany Greece Guatemala Haiti Hungary Iceland India Indonesia Iran (Persia) Iraq Ireland Israel/Palestine Italy Japan Jordan Kenya Korea Kosovo Kuwait Kyrgyzstan Latin America Liberia Libya Mali Mexico Middle East Mongolia Morocco Namibia Nations Compared Netherlands New Zealand Nicaragua Niger Nigeria North America Norway Pacific Islands Pakistan Palestine Paraguay Peru Philippines Poland Polombia Portugal Romania Saudi Arabia Scandinavia Scotland Serbia Singapore Slovakia South Africa South America Southeast Asia Spain Sudan Sweden Switzerland Syria Thailand The Pacific Tunisia Turkey Turkmenistan UK (United Kingdom) Ukraine USA (America) USSR/Russia Uzbekistan Venezuela Vietnam West Europe Yemen Yugoslavia Zaire


Balkanization Communism Constitutions Democracy Dictators Diplomacy Floism Global Issues Hegemony Homeland Security Human Rights Immigration International Events Law Nationalism NATO Organizations Peace Politics Terrorism United Nations US Elections 2008 US Elections 2012 US Elections 2016 US Elections 2020 Violence War War Crimes Within the US


Christianity Hinduism Islam Judaism Liberation Theology Religion

Science & Technology

Alcohol Anthropology Automotives Biological Weapons Design and Architecture Drugs Energy Environment Internet Landmines Mathematics Medicine Natural Disasters Psychology Recycling Research Science and Humanities Sexuality Space Technology World Wide Web (Internet)


Geography Maps Tourism Transportation


1-TRIBUTES TO PROFESSOR HILTON 2001 Conference on Globalizations Academic WAR Forums Ask WAIS Experts Benefactors Chairman General News Member Information Member Nomination PAIS Research News Ronald Hilton Quotes Seasonal Messages Tributes to Prof. Hilton Varia Various Topics WAIS WAIS 2006 Conference WAIS Board Members WAIS History WAIS Interviews WAIS NEWS waisworld.org launch WAR Forums on Media & Research Who's Who