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Created by John Eipper on 08/31/21 4:38 AM

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In Afghanistan, We Defeated Ourselves: McMaster (Tor Guimaraes, USA, 08/31/21 4:38 am)

I am amazed at someone who can still think that Trump is capable of doing anything right, even the things that started with a good idea like getting out of Afghanistan. Francisco Wong-Díaz has written that Trump's assassination of the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and dropping a huge bomb on the Taliban would have made a big difference. Further, Francisco criticized the withdrawal from the Bagram base, even though once Trump decided to leave Afghanistan, sooner or later he would have had to abandon it. He is the one who made the deal with the Taliban.

Francisco and his people "in the know" are mistaken because, as John Eipper pointed out, the big bomb was dropped in 2017 on an ISIS-K target in Afghanistan, not the Taliban, and the ISIS-K group are the sworn enemies of the latter.

America has become two nations, one a theocracy by fundamentalists adoring their messiah Trump, the other hanging on to undesirable leaders (anyone but Trump) because we have no other choice and we know based on facts that Trump will be the end of the US Constitution, the rule of law, respect for decency and scientific reality.

How would Trump have handled the implementation of his agreement with the Taliban? The same way he has handled everything in his life.  Just read the incredibly accurate book by Rick Wilson, Everything Trump Touches Dies. If you are a real Christian, he is the true Anti-Christ. Specifically, here are some facts indicating that Trump could have made things only worse in this Afghanistan mess up:

1. Olivia Troye (top national security adviser to Mike Pence): "Trump had four years to plan to evacuate these Afghan allies who were the lifelines for many Americans in Afghanistan. They'd been waiting a long time. The process slowed to a trickle. Trump announced our withdrawal from Afghanistan and made a deal with the Taliban, also Trump tried to invite the Taliban to the White House, which stunned many of Trump's top advisers."

2. According to Secretary Mark Esper, "Mr. Trump had earlier ‘undermined' the agreement through his barely disguised impatience to exit the country with little apparent regard for the consequences. That included an October 2020 declaration by Mr. Trump that he wanted the 5,000 American troops then in Afghanistan home by Christmas."

3. Former national security adviser H.R. McMaster regarding the actions of Mike Pompeo: "Our secretary of state signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban. This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn't defeat us. We defeated ourselves."

JE comments:  We're seeing finger-pointing on all sides, which is a constant for any nation after a military defeat.  The Spaniards had their Generation of '98, and the Germans cultivated the "Stab in the Back" legend after the 1918 Armistice. 

How much lethal equipment was left in Afghanistan intact (not destroyed) by the departing US-NATO forces?  Simple question, and as we say in the teaching business, "answers will vary."  Even one round of ammunition is too much, but think of the overwhelming logistical challenges.  My understanding is that nearly all of the Western firepower presently in Taliban hands came from the surrendering Afghans.  Am I wrong?

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