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Post Why Hypocrisy in Organized Religion?
Created by John Eipper on 05/14/19 1:25 PM

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Why Hypocrisy in Organized Religion? (Tor Guimaraes, USA, 05/14/19 1:25 pm)

Commenting on my post of May 12th, JE questioned the notion that whatever a god was defined to be or stood for according to his/her followers, is the same as the followers' behavior and what they say it is.

Except for God the Universe which everyone can see exists, can be studied and measured by any observer, all other gods exist in whatever form (rules for behavior) only in the minds of their followers. The followers become the god. Whoever found a particular religion imagines whatever god they want to suit their purposes here on Earth. They create the god and the god then tells the followers what behavior is appropriate or not. The behavior of the followers is the true representation of the particular god. If the followers say or write in their sacred books that their god stands for peace but they engage in war, the peace god does not exist except as empty words. Thus we have always had and forever will have huge amounts of hypocrisy in every organized religion.

Without at least one follower, for all the hundreds of religions throughout history and before, the particular religion disappears. The Universe is the only thing (I call It God) which I believe will live forever in some form. If I am wrong about this and the Universe will end someday, I also merely imagined that It will live forever, and this notion will disappear without a believer.

JE comments:  Here's a "tree falls in the forest" riddle:  do "dead" religions cease to be religions?  Why not?  There are no more Cathars (I think), but no one doubts the religion's existence.


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  • Thoughts on "Dead" Religions (Tor Guimaraes, USA 05/16/19 4:07 AM)
    JE commented on my post of May 14th: "Here's a 'tree falls in the forest' riddle: do 'dead' religions cease to be religions? Why not? There are no more Cathars (I think), but no one doubts the religion's existence."

    I see a big difference. If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, in reality a tree did fall and the air molecules vibrated violently, even though no one's ears were there to pick up the vibrations.


    On the other hand, if the followers of the religion based on the Sun god all died out, so did the religion. What is left is people talking and writing about this ancient and anachronistic religion which existed once upon a time. We have conclusive evidence that the Sun is a common star, it has never been a god, so the Sun god was merely superstition. This religion exists on in the history books, just like unicorns, medusa, and centaurs.


    JE comments:  We should discuss further the topic of "dead" religions.  Even the most obscure religion of antiquity probably has a practitioner or two.  Religions are easier to bring back than dead languages.  Also, nobody embraces a different language out of a sense of spiritual emptiness.


    And yes--Catharism has been revived.  Just ask them:






    http://cathar.org/about/the-cathars-of-xxi-century/ 


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