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Created by John Eipper on 06/06/19 3:40 AM

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Religion and Usury (Tor Guimaraes, USA, 06/06/19 3:40 am)

JE commented on my post of June 3rd: "Religions offer codes of morality. Let me cite one beyond the obvious candidates of 'don't kill/don't steal': laws against usury. Would Tor Guimaraes's concept of 'God the Universe' have anything to say about exploitative levels of interest?"

Any codes of behavior are useless if the supposedly followers don't behave accordingly. That is my number two reason why organized religions are useless:  people don't do what they preach. Worse, because we all know that is true but ignore the reasons why, everyone else's religion becomes a focus of derision and sometimes even hatred.

Regarding rules against usury, it is a man-made issue created because we invented money and charge for the use of money over time, society should decide what is a fair interest. The Golden Rule of not doing to others... applies in general, otherwise God has nothing to do with it. The same goes for any unethical and immoral behavior, crimes, war, etc. They are all man-made and it is wrong to bring God into it. That is why knowingly humans developed whole books of law, ethics, rules, and regulations.

JE comments:  I'm presently reading WAISer Muqtedar Khan's excellent new book, Islam and Good Governance (https://waisworld.org/go.jsp?id=02a&objectType=post&o=124273&objectTypeId=90023&topicId=175 ).  Muqtedar's exploration of Ihsan (perfection in Muslim theology) delves deeply into the concept of hypocrisy.  Rest assured that serious theologians of established/hegemonic religions don't overlook the urgency of combatting it (hypocrisy) in all its forms.

I urge Tor Guimaraes and Muqtedar Khan to reach each other's books.  This could spark a very productive discussion. 


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